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	<title>Comments on: Burgher Community of Sri Lanka Faces Decline in Numbers</title>
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		<title>By: romanie jaitly</title>
		<link>http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/70/comment-page-1#comment-2099</link>
		<dc:creator>romanie jaitly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 13:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my father is indian and my mother srilankan-burgher and her name vivienne vonhagt. 
i have been trying to trace my aunt and my mothers sister whose name is heather vonhagt who married a srilankan and was based  in colombo.
if anyone has any news at all please get in touch..............

i have been fascinated by the history of the burghers but unfortunately change is inevitable. i think it is more important to celebrate the lives and the contribution of the burghers in ways that are creative and inspiring......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my father is indian and my mother srilankan-burgher and her name vivienne vonhagt.<br />
i have been trying to trace my aunt and my mothers sister whose name is heather vonhagt who married a srilankan and was based  in colombo.<br />
if anyone has any news at all please get in touch&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>i have been fascinated by the history of the burghers but unfortunately change is inevitable. i think it is more important to celebrate the lives and the contribution of the burghers in ways that are creative and inspiring&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ramona T. Fernando</title>
		<link>http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/70/comment-page-1#comment-1492</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramona T. Fernando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to mention that I was born in Sri Lanka.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention that I was born in Sri Lanka.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramona T. Fernando</title>
		<link>http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/70/comment-page-1#comment-1487</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramona T. Fernando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I refer to Martin Dunstan’s comments on July 31st, 2007.</p>
<p>My paternal grandfather was a Tamil, and my maternal grandmother was a Sinhalese. It was thus decided that as the common denominator was Burgher, that I should be Burgher. This was a bit unusual for Sri Lanka, as the rule in our country is that one’s ethnicity should follow that of one’s father’s father, but by some flux, some of us fell through because of the difficulty in defining such a system. My parents did have to produce their birth certificates before mine was issued.<br />
I lived most of my youth in South East Asia- Malaysia, Brunei and Singapore and mostly in Brunei. Unlike these countries, and mostly Singapore, Sri Lanka has an ancient culture spanning 3,000 years. The Sinhalese which are in the majority, and the Tamil which are the second in majority, but yet in the minority, have very rigid cultures and religions which we are very proud of. Singapore is a new nation made up of immigrants from all parts of the world. It would be therefore quite useless for Singapore to begin races and cultures like that which began a few millennia ago, which would not suit its smallness and newness as a nation and so they will do best by terming all citizens as simply Singaporean.<br />
Compared to Sri Lanka, S.E.Asia’s economies have been “jumped-started” on petroleum reserves with Singapore the controlling hub. My country Sri Lanka has not been blessed with such oil reserves, but we are still proud of our ancient history and cultural heritage. We strive to preserve our traditions and aspirations, and even if we are not a wealthy nation.<br />
No, there is no racism intended here at my mention of the word Eurasian.  In my country, the Sinhalese and Tamil races are quite distinct from each other in both their ethnicities, languages and religions; both equally proud of their heritages. Unfortunately those of mixed origins sometimes find it difficult to find acceptance and assimilate into the two groups. I believe that this is the reason Mr. Muller is trying to build up the community so the few remaining will have an identity, but he is going about it the wrong way. More emphasis should be given to striving to find acceptances into these two majority races and thus building up our nation. We should not, or could not be a socio-economic group as we are too small in numbers, but could be a community of some sort of historical and cultural interest contributing our positives aspects to our country.<br />
I wish we could be all called simply Sri Lankan, but we are too old and proud a county for that.</p>
<p>Ramona T. Fernando U.S.A.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Dunstan</title>
		<link>http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/70/comment-page-1#comment-1329</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Dunstan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was fascinated by Ramona Fernando&#8217;s response.</p>
<p>I don’t know when or where Ramona was born but my birth certificate issued in Sri Lanka simply says both my parents were Burghers.  It says nothing about my grandparents.  </p>
<p>She says she was &#8216;officially written as a Burgher on basis of a paternal grandmother, and maternal grandfather being Burgher&#8217;.  I wonder what her maternal grandmother and paternal grandfather were? And why does she says that the opposite combination to was used to determine that she was a Burgher?</p>
<p>If she wonders why Burghers should call themselves Burghers in this day and age why does she suggest they should call themselves Sri Lankan Eurasians?  Why not simply Sri Lankans?  Do I detect an element of racism here in the introduction of the term Eurasian?</p>
<p>Ultimately one is what one thinks and feels one is and I would commend to her the Singaporean motto &#8220;Nation before community and self&#8221;.  Ramona is a Sri Lankan: end of story and dilemma.  Move on lady.</p>
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		<title>By: ilaya seran senguttuvan</title>
		<link>http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/70/comment-page-1#comment-1183</link>
		<dc:creator>ilaya seran senguttuvan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 08:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Idiots like Manju (27) should stick  to reading as a process to learn and gather some rudimentary knowledge. Please don&#039;t dare make foolish comments that only give away your ignorance. Even an 8th year student knows the reasons why Burghers left Sri Lanka and why Tamils chose to wage battle to regain their part of their Homeland in the event the Sinhala &#124;Govts unwilling to share power with them. For starters, try and learn something about the APRC
and work connected around it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idiots like Manju (27) should stick  to reading as a process to learn and gather some rudimentary knowledge. Please don&#8217;t dare make foolish comments that only give away your ignorance. Even an 8th year student knows the reasons why Burghers left Sri Lanka and why Tamils chose to wage battle to regain their part of their Homeland in the event the Sinhala |Govts unwilling to share power with them. For starters, try and learn something about the APRC<br />
and work connected around it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Hughes</title>
		<link>http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/70/comment-page-1#comment-1179</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 05:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose the logical extension to this proposition is, the remaining few Ceylonese Burgers have C B printed  front  and back of their t-shirts, in recognition of a past and never to be replaced  era. C&#039;est  la vie...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose the logical extension to this proposition is, the remaining few Ceylonese Burgers have C B printed  front  and back of their t-shirts, in recognition of a past and never to be replaced  era. C&#8217;est  la vie&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Kuruppu (nee de Vos)</title>
		<link>http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/70/comment-page-1#comment-1169</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Kuruppu (nee de Vos)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My ancestors arrived on 13 Februay 1673 from Bruges to Ceylon in a ship called Wapen vander Goes.  The Dutch burghers from Netherland, the Portuguese and the British were the first people to build the infrastructure in Ceylon.  Since independence, 95% of the Burghers left Ceylon due to the minority being oppressed by the majority. We were holding the top jobs in Ceylon.  Since we left Ceylon, the politicians introduced corruption, bribery, ethnic cleansing and human rights and civil rights abuses.  During that period, all communities lived in harmony.  But today it is a country falling apart.  I am proud to be a member of The Dutch Burghers Union.

God Bless the Dutch Burghers and Long may they live</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My ancestors arrived on 13 Februay 1673 from Bruges to Ceylon in a ship called Wapen vander Goes.  The Dutch burghers from Netherland, the Portuguese and the British were the first people to build the infrastructure in Ceylon.  Since independence, 95% of the Burghers left Ceylon due to the minority being oppressed by the majority. We were holding the top jobs in Ceylon.  Since we left Ceylon, the politicians introduced corruption, bribery, ethnic cleansing and human rights and civil rights abuses.  During that period, all communities lived in harmony.  But today it is a country falling apart.  I am proud to be a member of The Dutch Burghers Union.</p>
<p>God Bless the Dutch Burghers and Long may they live</p>
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		<title>By: Manju</title>
		<link>http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/70/comment-page-1#comment-1140</link>
		<dc:creator>Manju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 04:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>admire the Burghers than the Tamils.The Burghers feel living Sri Lanka is diifficult to them and lots of Burghers left Sri Lanka. They didnt resort to violent rebellian aganist the state like Tamils</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>admire the Burghers than the Tamils.The Burghers feel living Sri Lanka is diifficult to them and lots of Burghers left Sri Lanka. They didnt resort to violent rebellian aganist the state like Tamils</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Joustra</title>
		<link>http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/70/comment-page-1#comment-1082</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Joustra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 02:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The VOC only used the term Burgher for the classification of Vrij Burgher or Free Citzen. The term Dutch Burgher was created by the British which effectively devided the community into groups and further expanded with many other groups getting &#039;named&#039; in order to devide an conquer, so while everyone was competing with each other they would not unify against the British. This being understood the Dutch Burgher communtiy devided itself between elitist, job classification etc. It must not be forgotten that an employ of the Dutch East India Company could start as a cadet and be promoted based on input, ability and desire. For history we need to recognise these different groups and not so much hold onto but understand, record and look at the positives each group brought to a country once known as Ceylon. The country Sri Lanka, like many countries, needs to unify and look at a persons ability rather than their skin colour or race defined group. Understanding and respect must also be paid to those whom were brought up under the British Social System, and rather than attack- understand in the context of what they were taught. My own Great Aunts could easily have been considered racist, yet they were the most kind and caring people, there atitude to certain people was purely born on what they were taught, though i did not agree with the views on this to tell them how wrong they were would only alienate me and possibly have made the last years of their life lonely. They were Burgher Girls yet due to their surname and colour of their skin they were more accepted into the British Realms (to some the pretend British) of influence while others were shunned away from certain events and seen &#039;unofficially&#039;. the people they married lost their jobs because ultimately they were seen as Burghers. The plight of the Dutch Burghers was a product of dislike for the British and the suitability for the Briitsh to give preference to the Dutch Burghers in terms of jobs and roles. Remember the British set the tone when they took over the Island of Ceylon by striking a deal in Switzerland with the de Meuron Regiment, this effectively halved the VOC&#039;s strength and fortifcation details were also given to the British thus devide and conquer. Lets be proud of everyone&#039;s achievements and tech the new generations about the mistakes made!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The VOC only used the term Burgher for the classification of Vrij Burgher or Free Citzen. The term Dutch Burgher was created by the British which effectively devided the community into groups and further expanded with many other groups getting &#8216;named&#8217; in order to devide an conquer, so while everyone was competing with each other they would not unify against the British. This being understood the Dutch Burgher communtiy devided itself between elitist, job classification etc. It must not be forgotten that an employ of the Dutch East India Company could start as a cadet and be promoted based on input, ability and desire. For history we need to recognise these different groups and not so much hold onto but understand, record and look at the positives each group brought to a country once known as Ceylon. The country Sri Lanka, like many countries, needs to unify and look at a persons ability rather than their skin colour or race defined group. Understanding and respect must also be paid to those whom were brought up under the British Social System, and rather than attack- understand in the context of what they were taught. My own Great Aunts could easily have been considered racist, yet they were the most kind and caring people, there atitude to certain people was purely born on what they were taught, though i did not agree with the views on this to tell them how wrong they were would only alienate me and possibly have made the last years of their life lonely. They were Burgher Girls yet due to their surname and colour of their skin they were more accepted into the British Realms (to some the pretend British) of influence while others were shunned away from certain events and seen &#8216;unofficially&#8217;. the people they married lost their jobs because ultimately they were seen as Burghers. The plight of the Dutch Burghers was a product of dislike for the British and the suitability for the Briitsh to give preference to the Dutch Burghers in terms of jobs and roles. Remember the British set the tone when they took over the Island of Ceylon by striking a deal in Switzerland with the de Meuron Regiment, this effectively halved the VOC&#8217;s strength and fortifcation details were also given to the British thus devide and conquer. Lets be proud of everyone&#8217;s achievements and tech the new generations about the mistakes made!</p>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
		<link>http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/70/comment-page-1#comment-1052</link>
		<dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;am a Sri Lankan Eurasian,married to a a non Sri Lankan.My two children have adapted  very well to both parents cultures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;am a Sri Lankan Eurasian,married to a a non Sri Lankan.My two children have adapted  very well to both parents cultures.</p>
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