Comments on: Human Rights And Wrongs http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/386 Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:30:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Expatriate http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/386/comment-page-1#comment-6791 Expatriate Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:06:47 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/386#comment-6791 Only sub-humans 'theorize' while standing on the murdered bodies of innocents who were abducted, raped, disemboweled and mutilated. No civilized discourse is possible with such creatures. Only sub-humans ‘theorize’ while standing on the murdered bodies of innocents who were abducted, raped, disemboweled and mutilated.

No civilized discourse is possible with such creatures.

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By: karan http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/386/comment-page-1#comment-6781 karan Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:31:54 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/386#comment-6781 Double standards,balls to lecture others,west need to be educated, these are the words of Qadri Ismail. Indeed so Mr.Ismail,can you remember what happened to Muslims of Srebenicia? Saudi Arabia sent money and volunteers to spread their version of Islam.Please do enlighten us(the lackeys of USA) more about how the islamic world behaved? Double standards,balls to lecture others,west need to be educated, these are the words of Qadri Ismail. Indeed so Mr.Ismail,can you remember what happened to Muslims of Srebenicia? Saudi Arabia sent money and volunteers to spread their version of Islam.Please do enlighten us(the lackeys of USA) more about how the islamic world behaved?

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By: ilaya seran senguttuvan http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/386/comment-page-1#comment-6779 ilaya seran senguttuvan Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:17:40 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/386#comment-6779 Dayan (15) - Are you about to switch loyalties again? Expatriate is frying your current "bossa" the 2 mallis and other hench-aiyas - to use his words "ruffian gang" Wanna re-phrase your question in case you were on a "trip" when you wrote 15? Dayan (15) – Are you about to switch loyalties again?
Expatriate is frying your current “bossa” the 2 mallis and
other hench-aiyas – to use his words “ruffian gang”
Wanna re-phrase your question in case you were on a
“trip” when you wrote 15?

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By: Dayan Jayatilleka http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/386/comment-page-1#comment-6758 Dayan Jayatilleka Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:05:43 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/386#comment-6758 Dear Expatriate, Your prose and tone, are indeed a model of sanity and reason. Dear Expatriate,

Your prose and tone, are indeed a model of sanity and reason.

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By: Devinda Fernando http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/386/comment-page-1#comment-6752 Devinda Fernando Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:10:41 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/386#comment-6752 *** If you sort out the human rights first there may not be a war at all. *** Utter Nonsense Punitham. You have the cart before the horse. 2002 to 2005 (during the CFA) there were no Human rights violations, no abductions, and no check points... All this started because the War started,..or should I say the war <b>was</b> started by the LTTE. Explain that to me genius? ***Keep yawning Mr. Devinda Fernando, 100 abductions are a ‘drastic’ reduction is it? *** And let me respond to this other Genius Abraxus,.. Yes, 100 abductions in a year down from 1000 is a Drastic drop... if you do the math that is a 90% drop in abductions... Your idiotic comment illustrates the irony of the point I was making about perspective. But of course you think we live in a world where no one dies, or there is no crime. So therefore a single Tamil dead or kidnapped is a National Tragedy in your eyes. In the late 1980s in New York city the Murder rate was almost 4000 a year, that is 10 people a day getting strangled, shot, stabbed, dropped out of windows, poisoned, etc... During the height of the clean up that number dropped to 800 a year. That was just over 2 a day,... in a city of 7 million people. You can't eliminate crime completely. Get the picture? *** If you sort out the human rights first there may not be a war at all. ***

Utter Nonsense Punitham. You have the cart before the horse. 2002 to 2005 (during the CFA) there were no Human rights violations, no abductions, and no check points… All this started because the War started,..or should I say the war was started by the LTTE. Explain that to me genius?

***Keep yawning Mr. Devinda Fernando, 100 abductions are a ‘drastic’ reduction is it? ***

And let me respond to this other Genius Abraxus,..

Yes, 100 abductions in a year down from 1000 is a Drastic drop… if you do the math that is a 90% drop in abductions… Your idiotic comment illustrates the irony of the point I was making about perspective.

But of course you think we live in a world where no one dies, or there is no crime. So therefore a single Tamil dead or kidnapped is a National Tragedy in your eyes. In the late 1980s in New York city the Murder rate was almost 4000 a year, that is 10 people a day getting strangled, shot, stabbed, dropped out of windows, poisoned, etc… During the height of the clean up that number dropped to 800 a year. That was just over 2 a day,… in a city of 7 million people. You can’t eliminate crime completely. Get the picture?

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By: Nexus http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/386/comment-page-1#comment-6740 Nexus Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:10:01 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/386#comment-6740 Big deal Mr Ismail stop , in the words of the FBI the government is dealing with the most dangerous terror network in the world the pioneers of suicide bombing no less. To tackle this multi headed monster the govt has at times stumbled (the mass arrests etc) but on the whole is trying it upmost to do so within the laws of the land, lets not forget that the supreme court serves as the ultimate backstop and forced the release of those held without reason. In the US the president no less recently vetoed the use of torture by the CIA during interrogation of terror 'suspects' not those convicted by court of law but mere suspects. This is the same country that is turns around to wag the finger at others (and whose reports the Mr Ismails of he world regurgitate ad nauseum) , give us all break stop the duplicity. Big deal Mr Ismail stop , in the words of the FBI the government is dealing with the most dangerous terror network in the world the pioneers of suicide bombing no less. To tackle this multi headed monster the govt has at times stumbled (the mass arrests etc) but on the whole is trying it upmost to do so within the laws of the land, lets not forget that the supreme court serves as the ultimate backstop and forced the release of those held without reason.

In the US the president no less recently vetoed the use of torture by the CIA during interrogation of terror ’suspects’ not those convicted by court of law but mere suspects. This is the same country that is turns around to wag the finger at others (and whose reports the Mr Ismails of he world regurgitate ad nauseum) , give us all break stop the duplicity.

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By: Expatriate http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/386/comment-page-1#comment-6719 Expatriate Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:54:46 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/386#comment-6719 Those who can read can see how Qadri Ismail has marshaled his arguments to show that it is indeed the Rajapakse gang--the 'ruffians' (and that includes the mendacious henchmen in Geneva)--that is "armed, fascistic, or neobarbaric..." Those who don't see that are either insane or have learned nothing from their "experience"; so pathetic are they that any 'theorizing' they do is worse than the scribbling of those poor human beings who have been forced to stay at Angoda. Such people--if one can call them 'people' at all-- have nothing to 'impart' to morally and intellectually superior beings. The pursuit, annihilation and defeat of these cowardly ruffians should be the goal of any sane human being. Those who can read can see how Qadri Ismail has marshaled his arguments to show that it is indeed the Rajapakse gang–the ‘ruffians’ (and that includes the mendacious henchmen in Geneva)–that is “armed, fascistic, or neobarbaric…”

Those who don’t see that are either insane or have learned nothing from their “experience”; so pathetic are they that any ‘theorizing’ they do is worse than the scribbling of those poor human beings who have been forced to stay at Angoda.

Such people–if one can call them ‘people’ at all– have nothing to ‘impart’ to morally and intellectually superior beings. The pursuit, annihilation and defeat of these cowardly ruffians should be the goal of any sane human being.

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By: JeyP http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/386/comment-page-1#comment-6705 JeyP Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:12:02 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/386#comment-6705 in reply to #6 Please remember that HRW cannot be expected to give pronouncements on terrorist groups who by their very definition are human rights abusers. Bur a democratically elected governments ? Or maybe this government wants to be known along the lines of the governments of Rwanda, Germany and all other good Abusers? in reply to #6

Please remember that HRW cannot be expected to give pronouncements on terrorist groups who by their very definition are human rights abusers. Bur a democratically elected governments ? Or maybe this government wants to be known along the lines of the governments of Rwanda, Germany and all other good Abusers?

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By: Dayan Jayatilleka http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/386/comment-page-1#comment-6700 Dayan Jayatilleka Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:03:31 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/386#comment-6700 His "erstwhile friend " now in Geneva, never forgot a lesson learnt in the second half of the 1980s, while underground during the jayewardene regime. (a lesson learnt and publicly theorised but unsuccessfully or only episodically imparted to erstwhile friends, it seems.) that lesson was this: there is a fate worse than state. however bad the jayewardene regime was, there was something worse, as represented by the LTTE and the armed JVP. no state with any democratic space and accountability, and no elected government, is as dangerous as an armed, fascistic or neobarbaric movement....against which the state - deeply flawed but correctible - is the most important material bulwark, when all is said and done. His “erstwhile friend ” now in Geneva, never forgot a lesson learnt in the second half of the 1980s, while underground during the jayewardene regime. (a lesson learnt and publicly theorised but unsuccessfully or only episodically imparted to erstwhile friends, it seems.) that lesson was this: there is a fate worse than state. however bad the jayewardene regime was, there was something worse, as represented by the LTTE and the armed JVP. no state with any democratic space and accountability, and no elected government, is as dangerous as an armed, fascistic or neobarbaric movement….against which the state – deeply flawed but correctible – is the most important material bulwark, when all is said and done.

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By: abraxus http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/386/comment-page-1#comment-6694 abraxus Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:19:26 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/386#comment-6694 Keep yawning Mr. Devinda Fernando, 100 abductions are a 'drastic' reduction is it? Come now shall we abduct just one: YOU yourself, so you can yawn at your captors bravery and distaste for "Human rights". Keep yawning, why not keep farting while you are abducted, tortued until some relative of yours scrapes enough money to release you from those said abductors. That is if you are not killed before that. Keep yawning you arrogant patriot, keep yawning. Keep yawning Mr. Devinda Fernando, 100 abductions are a ‘drastic’ reduction is it? Come now shall we abduct just one: YOU yourself, so you can yawn at your captors bravery and distaste for “Human rights”. Keep yawning, why not keep farting while you are abducted, tortued until some relative of yours scrapes enough money to release you from those said abductors. That is if you are not killed before that. Keep yawning you arrogant patriot, keep yawning.

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