Comments on: Newly resettled IDPs dream of life without war http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/388 Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:30:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: selva http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/388/comment-page-1#comment-6839 selva Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:53:32 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/388#comment-6839 Devinda there is a correction to reach sampoor from the harbour they will have to will have to cross about 5 bays by ferries. Devinda there is a correction to reach sampoor from the harbour they will have to will have to cross about 5 bays by ferries.

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By: selva http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/388/comment-page-1#comment-6838 selva Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:48:38 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/388#comment-6838 Hi Devinda, Please go to the web sites below and see what I wrote is right or wrong. The Indian company when they were asked to shift their projedt to Sampoor they refused saying it is very difficult to move the plants from the harbour to this location. The reason is they need to cross about bays by ferries. There are lots of government lands and forest in Trinco. The place allocated before was in the north and they don't have to cross any bay. Even after the plant started working, to transport the coal either they will have to transport it through this way or by barges through the sea. Even though it is going to be very costly the ethnic cleansing is more important than money for the government. Evacuating the Muslims from north by the Tigers is definitely ethnic cleansing and Evacuating Sampoor is more than that because it is done by a Government. thesouthasian.org/archives/2007/resettlement_in_trincomalee_ba_1.html transcurrents.com/tamiliana/archives/189 federalidea.com/focus/archives/250 Hi Devinda,

Please go to the web sites below and see what I wrote is right or wrong.

The Indian company when they were asked to shift their projedt to Sampoor they refused saying it is very difficult to move the plants from the harbour to this location. The reason is they need to cross about bays by ferries. There are lots of government lands and forest in Trinco. The place allocated before was in the north and they don’t have to cross any bay. Even after the plant started working, to transport the coal either they will have to transport it through this way or by barges through the sea. Even though it is going to be very costly the ethnic cleansing is more important than money for the government.

Evacuating the Muslims from north by the Tigers is definitely ethnic cleansing and Evacuating Sampoor is more than that because it is done by a Government.

thesouthasian.org/archives/2007/resettlement_in_trincomalee_ba_1.html

transcurrents.com/tamiliana/archives/189

federalidea.com/focus/archives/250

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By: Vellahla http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/388/comment-page-1#comment-6817 Vellahla Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:36:47 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/388#comment-6817 When a person or family from Rochester, New York moves to Hicksville, Arizona it's not called colonization but relocation. See how biased and radicalized you have become in your pursuit of justice and "eelam". IT IS THE INHERENT RIGHT OF ANYBODY IN SRI LANKA TO MOVE AND RELOCATE HIS FAMILY ANYWHERE ON THE ISLAND. THIS IS NOT CULTURAL GENOCIDE NOR COLONIZATION. Currently, the only place where Sri Lankans cannot go to is the "de facto" Eelam state that still begs from the SL Govt. for monthly quotas of food and medicine and also begs from you diarsepora for money. Grow up... Majority of the REAL problems faced by Tamils in the North and East are common to people of all ethnic communities of Sri Lanka. When a person or family from Rochester, New York moves to Hicksville, Arizona it’s not called colonization but relocation. See how biased and radicalized you have become in your pursuit of justice and “eelam”.

IT IS THE INHERENT RIGHT OF ANYBODY IN SRI LANKA TO MOVE AND RELOCATE HIS FAMILY ANYWHERE ON THE ISLAND. THIS IS NOT CULTURAL GENOCIDE NOR COLONIZATION.

Currently, the only place where Sri Lankans cannot go to is the “de facto” Eelam state that still begs from the SL Govt. for monthly quotas of food and medicine and also begs from you diarsepora for money.

Grow up… Majority of the REAL problems faced by Tamils in the North and East are common to people of all ethnic communities of Sri Lanka.

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By: Devinda Fernando http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/388/comment-page-1#comment-6812 Devinda Fernando Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:45:11 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/388#comment-6812 Selva, For you to write about Ethnic Cleansing, first and foremost you actually need to familiarize yourself with the DEFINITION of Ethnic Cleansing. Let me help you here: Dictionary Definition: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ethnic%20cleansing Now that we are (hopefully) on the same page as to what Ethnic Cleansing is, let us proceed to look at an ACTUAL incident of Ethnic Cleansing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Muslims_from_Jaffna Oh wait… this looks like it was not the Sri Lankan Govt but,…wait,….. Drumroll please, (Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr)….. Your Saviors of the Tamil people – the LTTE. Now lets look at the other Drivel you have written and analyse this using proper logic. ***the Planed Sinhalese colonization in the East also designed to make the Tamils to to loose their identity.*** <b>Forced Colonization?</b> - Last time I checked the country is Sri Lanka, and ALL CITIZENS (Tamil, Muslim, Sinhalese or any other ethnic group) are FREE to live and move anywhere on the WHOLE ISLAND. Stop using weasel words like ‘Colonization’ when once again they do not apply. Let me ask you something, I am Sinhalese, I plan to buy land in Vakarai soon,…am I colonizing the East? Is this something I am not allowed to do? And If Sinhalese move to the East is considered Colonization, then Tamils who move to the South, are they ‘Colonizing’ Sinhala lands? You make me laugh when you make ludicrous statements like Colonization of Tamil Land. Land belongs to the person who holds the Legal Deed not an Ethnic Group as the Communalists would have you believe. ***During the war the people of Sampoor fleed as refugees to Batticaloa, Mannar and some to India by boat and some died while crossing the sea and many died in the war. None of the people are allowed to come back to Sampoor and the government is going to give this area to an Indian company to build a Coal power plant. *** This is a war that the LTTE started, but it seems you hold the GoSL responsible for what happened to those people. Your statement is also factless, vague, and rife with conjecture. Use actual numbers and be specific otherwise I can only assume you are lying or exaggerating to prove a point. All IDPs ARE allowed to return, if you have any proof to the contrary please provide it. Some may not return to the EXACT same areas they left for a variety of reasons, but none being what you allege about Ethnic Cleansing. And regarding your Power Plant construction; you do realize that the Power plant is going to bring economy, commerce, and jobs to (Tamil)people of that area? Its called development kiddo, something the LTTE never did. If some villagers have to be relocated so that development can commence then so be it,… for the greater good of the people in the East. The majority Tamils will be the ones to benefit from the developments in the East. The tax money and commerce will build schools, hospitals, roads, and utilities. Now is that the goal of a government ‘Ethnic Cleansing’ a minority? Stop thinking like a Communalist along the lines of ethnicity alone. And regarding your comment about Tamils losing their Identity? Have they lost their identity in India (Tamil Nadu) or in Canada or UK and Malaysia where other significant percentages live? Selva,

For you to write about Ethnic Cleansing, first and foremost you actually need to familiarize yourself with the DEFINITION of Ethnic Cleansing. Let me help you here:

Dictionary Definition:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ethnic%20cleansing

Now that we are (hopefully) on the same page as to what Ethnic Cleansing is, let us proceed to look at an ACTUAL incident of Ethnic Cleansing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Muslims_from_Jaffna

Oh wait… this looks like it was not the Sri Lankan Govt but,…wait,….. Drumroll please, (Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr)….. Your Saviors of the Tamil people – the LTTE.

Now lets look at the other Drivel you have written and analyse this using proper logic.

***the Planed Sinhalese colonization in the East also designed to make the Tamils to to loose their identity.***

Forced Colonization? – Last time I checked the country is Sri Lanka, and ALL CITIZENS (Tamil, Muslim, Sinhalese or any other ethnic group) are FREE to live and move anywhere on the WHOLE ISLAND. Stop using weasel words like ‘Colonization’ when once again they do not apply.

Let me ask you something, I am Sinhalese, I plan to buy land in Vakarai soon,…am I colonizing the East? Is this something I am not allowed to do? And If Sinhalese move to the East is considered Colonization, then Tamils who move to the South, are they ‘Colonizing’ Sinhala lands? You make me laugh when you make ludicrous statements like Colonization of Tamil Land. Land belongs to the person who holds the Legal Deed not an Ethnic Group as the Communalists would have you believe.

***During the war the people of Sampoor fleed as refugees to Batticaloa, Mannar and some to India by boat and some died while crossing the sea and many died in the war. None of the people are allowed to come back to Sampoor and the government is going to give this area to an Indian company to build a Coal power plant. ***

This is a war that the LTTE started, but it seems you hold the GoSL responsible for what happened to those people. Your statement is also factless, vague, and rife with conjecture. Use actual numbers and be specific otherwise I can only assume you are lying or exaggerating to prove a point. All IDPs ARE allowed to return, if you have any proof to the contrary please provide it. Some may not return to the EXACT same areas they left for a variety of reasons, but none being what you allege about Ethnic Cleansing. And regarding your Power Plant construction; you do realize that the Power plant is going to bring economy, commerce, and jobs to (Tamil)people of that area? Its called development kiddo, something the LTTE never did. If some villagers have to be relocated so that development can commence then so be it,… for the greater good of the people in the East. The majority Tamils will be the ones to benefit from the developments in the East. The tax money and commerce will build schools, hospitals, roads, and utilities. Now is that the goal of a government ‘Ethnic Cleansing’ a minority? Stop thinking like a Communalist along the lines of ethnicity alone.

And regarding your comment about Tamils losing their Identity? Have they lost their identity in India (Tamil Nadu) or in Canada or UK and Malaysia where other significant percentages live?

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By: selva http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/388/comment-page-1#comment-6809 selva Sat, 29 Mar 2008 00:03:49 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/388#comment-6809 Hi Devinda, How are you. I am one of the person who write about Ethnic cleansing of Tamils in the North & East . As Dalai Lama definded it as Cultural genoside about what is happening in Tibet, the Planed Sinhalese colonization in the East also designed to make the Tamils to to loose their identity. Due to the recent way in the East people displaced in three areas. Sampoor in Trincomale district, and Vaharai and Paduvankarai in batticaloa district. Sampoor is the village where the Tamils lived densely out of whole Trinco district. During the war the people of Sampoor fleed as refugees to Batticaloa, Mannar and some to India by boat and some died while crossing the sea and many died in the war. None of the people are allowed to come back to Sampoor and the government is going to give this area to an Indian company to build a Coal power plant. Earlier another bare lane in a different area had been given and now Tamils' ancent village. How much of money they would have spent to build their houses Temples and their heritage of their village. The Sihalese of Trincomale, almost 97% were brought here after independent are living undisturbed. Is this not ethnic cleansing. I am not blaming the Government for this but only LTTE because they only spoiled everything. Hi Devinda, How are you. I am one of the person who write about Ethnic cleansing of Tamils in the North & East . As Dalai Lama definded it as Cultural genoside about what is happening in Tibet, the Planed Sinhalese colonization in the East also designed to make the Tamils to to loose their identity. Due to the recent way in the East people displaced in three areas. Sampoor in Trincomale district, and Vaharai and Paduvankarai in batticaloa district. Sampoor is the village where the Tamils lived densely out of whole Trinco district. During the war the people of Sampoor fleed as refugees to Batticaloa, Mannar and some to India by boat and some died while crossing the sea and many died in the war. None of the people are allowed to come back to Sampoor and the government is going to give this area to an Indian company to build a Coal power plant. Earlier another bare lane in a different area had been given and now Tamils’ ancent village. How much of money they would have spent to build their houses Temples and their heritage of their village. The Sihalese of Trincomale, almost 97% were brought here after independent are living undisturbed. Is this not ethnic cleansing. I am not blaming the Government for this but only LTTE because they only spoiled everything.

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By: Devinda Fernando http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/388/comment-page-1#comment-6768 Devinda Fernando Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:43:25 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/388#comment-6768 Seeing is Believing. so these Diaspora will never believe it is happening because they will never return to the East to actually witness the transformation that is taking place. They have been Nay-saying from the get go. Mahinda has been in power for just about 2 years and the seeds of his promises have already begun to sprout. Liberation, Elections, Reconstruction. (Pssst. - For all of those who are still confused, we're on the second part.) LOL...Where is the Genocide you Tamil Nationalists and LTTE sympathizers all shouted so loud about? Where is the Ethnic Cleansing and the other host of Generic War crimes you alleged about the Sri Lankan government? I eagerly await your Spin and Rhetoric in response to this. Seeing is Believing. so these Diaspora will never believe it is happening because they will never return to the East to actually witness the transformation that is taking place. They have been Nay-saying from the get go. Mahinda has been in power for just about 2 years and the seeds of his promises have already begun to sprout.
Liberation, Elections, Reconstruction.

(Pssst. – For all of those who are still confused, we’re on the second part.)
LOL…Where is the Genocide you Tamil Nationalists and LTTE sympathizers all shouted so loud about? Where is the Ethnic Cleansing and the other host of Generic War crimes you alleged about the Sri Lankan government?

I eagerly await your Spin and Rhetoric in response to this.

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