Comments on: Eastern election, Northern task Force http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/437 Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:30:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Ilaya Seran Senguttuvan http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/437/comment-page-1#comment-14619 Ilaya Seran Senguttuvan Thu, 29 May 2008 16:49:42 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/437#comment-14619 I have been away for over a fortnight and missed many of TW's interesting debates. From whatever angle you look the EP did not have those minimum features where a reasonable free election was possible. Pillayan winning was a foregone conclusion except that many did not know - by hook or by crook - the Muslim voter strength has been inflated as of now. This is why the opportunistic Rauf Hakeem shed his MP garment and high-tailed it to the East with dreams of becoming the CM so that he is there when the $$flow from the West and the Arab brothers. Bros Inc. What integrity can be placed in this election when the TNA - the most democratic representatives of Tamils in the North-East - questioned the validit and rejected the Elections. I have been away for over a fortnight and missed many of TW’s interesting debates. From whatever angle you look the EP did not have those minimum features where a reasonable free election was possible. Pillayan winning was a foregone conclusion except that many did not know – by hook or by crook – the Muslim voter strength has been inflated as of now. This is why the opportunistic Rauf Hakeem shed his MP garment and high-tailed it to the East with dreams of becoming the CM so that he is there when the $$flow from the West and the Arab brothers. Bros Inc. What integrity can be placed in this election when the TNA – the most democratic representatives of Tamils in the North-East – questioned the validit and rejected the Elections.

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By: Devinda Fernando http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/437/comment-page-1#comment-12629 Devinda Fernando Wed, 21 May 2008 05:07:36 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/437#comment-12629 Venkai, saying anything to you is pointless because beyond the Face Value Rhetoric you spew from your rear end,....just like all the other Eelamists here you are incapable of debating a point or constructing a valid argument. You are only capable of Parroting LTTE talking points. I challenge you to take apart my debate any time... but I know you will only resort to calling me a Racist because I don;t see it your way. and yes.... I dont.... You are wrong, and will always be wrong, and until you can convince anyone otherwise you will always be wrong. Venkai, saying anything to you is pointless because beyond the Face Value Rhetoric you spew from your rear end,….just like all the other Eelamists here you are incapable of debating a point or constructing a valid argument. You are only capable of Parroting LTTE talking points. I challenge you to take apart my debate any time… but I know you will only resort to calling me a Racist because I don;t see it your way.

and yes…. I dont…. You are wrong, and will always be wrong, and until you can convince anyone otherwise you will always be wrong.

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By: Venkai http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/437/comment-page-1#comment-12163 Venkai Sun, 18 May 2008 16:47:22 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/437#comment-12163 comment #24 Trying to say something to a person who does not want to listen or admit that he was wrong is a futile exercise. This person "thinks" that he had the last laugh and he is always right and that every body should accept his views. When there are people like him in Sri Lanka, nobody can save Sri Lanka from destruction!! comment #24

Trying to say something to a person who does not want to listen or admit that he was wrong is a futile exercise. This person “thinks” that he had the last laugh and he is always right and that every body should accept his views.

When there are people like him in Sri Lanka, nobody can save Sri Lanka from destruction!!

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By: Devinda Fernando http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/437/comment-page-1#comment-11737 Devinda Fernando Thu, 15 May 2008 15:10:25 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/437#comment-11737 *** LTTE is the by product of continuous STATE TERROR against the un-armed Tamils. No body can deny this. No amount of Govt. propaganda can gloss over this reality*** And Mahinda's Government Response to the LTTE are the Product of 25 Years of LTTE Lies and BS! The Majority of Sri Lankans (including manyTamils) are Fed up with the LTTE and their Farcical Peace Overtures. They have squandered the Good Will and Patience of the Sri Lankan People and its government. There are no more Negotiations with Terrorists,... after 25 years of Attempted Peace and After 25 Years of Prabhakran's refusal to Accept any Political Solution (only Eelam) the Sri Lankan people are in no mood to tolerate the LTTE and the so-called 'Victimhood' status you Diaspora Crybabies claim in the International Community. Keep crying Venkai, about past injustices,..no one is listening to you anymore.... We are concerned with the Present Injustices the LTTE are causing to ALL Sri Lankans. *** LTTE is the by product of continuous STATE TERROR against the un-armed Tamils. No body can deny this. No amount of Govt. propaganda can gloss over this reality***

And Mahinda’s Government Response to the LTTE are the Product of 25 Years of LTTE Lies and BS!

The Majority of Sri Lankans (including manyTamils) are Fed up with the LTTE and their Farcical Peace Overtures. They have squandered the Good Will and Patience of the Sri Lankan People and its government. There are no more Negotiations with Terrorists,… after 25 years of Attempted Peace and After 25 Years of Prabhakran’s refusal to Accept any Political Solution (only Eelam) the Sri Lankan people are in no mood to tolerate the LTTE and the so-called ‘Victimhood’ status you Diaspora Crybabies claim in the International Community.

Keep crying Venkai, about past injustices,..no one is listening to you anymore…. We are concerned with the Present Injustices the LTTE are causing to ALL Sri Lankans.

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By: Devinda Fernando http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/437/comment-page-1#comment-11736 Devinda Fernando Thu, 15 May 2008 15:01:30 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/437#comment-11736 *** Firstly let the government prevent the EPDP, Pillayan Faction and the armed forces themselves carrying out these activities, in the government controlled areas, before trying to eliminate the LTTE.*** Nathan, Another EPDP member shot dead in Jaffna (Mrs. Maheswari) And you want the government to Disarm the EPDP and TMVP first???! http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/447 As far as Any SANE SENSIBLE SRI LANKAN is concerned the GoSL should Disarm the LTTE First... Once the LTTE are Dead and Buried then they can focus on disarming Tamil Militias since these Militias are carry guns to protect their very Lives from LTTE Tyranny and Terror. It shows how much you actually DON'T Care about Tamils or the Tamil Race, only about your Pathetic Terrorist Organization. You cry about EPDP carrying guns, but will NEVER speak up about LTTE killing Tamils. LOL! That is the Simple FACT of the matter. *** Firstly let the government prevent the EPDP, Pillayan Faction and the armed forces themselves carrying out these activities, in the government controlled areas, before trying to eliminate the LTTE.***

Nathan,

Another EPDP member shot dead in Jaffna (Mrs. Maheswari) And you want the government to Disarm the EPDP and TMVP first???!

http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/447

As far as Any SANE SENSIBLE SRI LANKAN is concerned the GoSL should Disarm the LTTE First…

Once the LTTE are Dead and Buried then they can focus on disarming Tamil Militias since these Militias are carry guns to protect their very Lives from LTTE Tyranny and Terror.

It shows how much you actually DON’T Care about Tamils or the Tamil Race, only about your Pathetic Terrorist Organization. You cry about EPDP carrying guns, but will NEVER speak up about LTTE killing Tamils. LOL!
That is the Simple FACT of the matter.

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By: Murugan http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/437/comment-page-1#comment-11540 Murugan Wed, 14 May 2008 22:18:18 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/437#comment-11540 Yes, you are right Mr. Anonymous. My analysis of the elections is not entirely correct, I apologize. I am human. But actually most Muslims did vote for SLMC-UNP so I am somewhat right in assuming that most Muslims will support Rauf Hakeem. I am not being communalist I am just calling it how it is. The voting in the east was largely along communalist lines, that is just a fact. Sinhalese came out strong for Rajapaksa, Muslims voted strongly for SLMC-UNP. Tamils were intimidated by Pillaiyan. But you are right because, my analysis is cursory and reveals that I am not intouch with the ground reality. I am sorry. My post was a futile attempt to show that the elections were a farce, and that in a free and fair environment it is doubtful Rajapaksa would have won. It is hard to show this. But you are right, I made a mistake in assuming people vote along communalist lines. This is not entirely a fair assumption. Anyways, I still think the elections were a joke. Thank you for pointing out the flaw in what I wrote. Yes, you are right Mr. Anonymous.
My analysis of the elections is not entirely correct, I apologize. I am human.

But actually most Muslims did vote for SLMC-UNP so I am somewhat right in assuming that most Muslims will support Rauf Hakeem. I am not being communalist I am just calling it how it is. The voting in the east was largely along communalist lines, that is just a fact. Sinhalese came out strong for Rajapaksa, Muslims voted strongly for SLMC-UNP. Tamils were intimidated by Pillaiyan. But you are right because, my analysis is cursory and reveals that I am not intouch with the ground reality. I am sorry.

My post was a futile attempt to show that the elections were a farce, and that in a free and fair environment it is doubtful Rajapaksa would have won. It is hard to show this.

But you are right, I made a mistake in assuming people vote along communalist lines. This is not entirely a fair assumption. Anyways, I still think the elections were a joke. Thank you for pointing out the flaw in what I wrote.

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By: Venkai http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/437/comment-page-1#comment-11489 Venkai Wed, 14 May 2008 16:58:27 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/437#comment-11489 comment #12 Dayan is boasting of an "independent" Supreme Court. It is not a secret how "independent" the Sri Lankan supreme court is!! It is like a weather cock, which sways to the whims and fancies of the ruling party of the Banana Republic!! Who wants that kind of Supreme Court!! comment #12

Dayan is boasting of an “independent” Supreme Court. It is not a secret how “independent” the Sri Lankan supreme court is!! It is like a weather cock, which sways to the whims and fancies of the ruling party of the Banana Republic!! Who wants that kind of Supreme Court!!

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By: Arumugam http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/437/comment-page-1#comment-11468 Arumugam Wed, 14 May 2008 12:19:07 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/437#comment-11468 Dr DJ, Please be informed that your SriLanka is a subject or even primary subject of the regimes of the UN and international law. so, Mahindha chinthanawa cannot violates and breach fundamental obligation of Srilanka as a Member of the UN and international community. Even your independant supreme Court failed to recognise the award granted on Singarasa v SriLanka. I think the time has come, civilsed governance of Europe and India and request them to accept the legitimate demand of the Tamil speaking belt.. Otherwise decolonise the region.and allow Sinhala people to enjoy the real deomocracy. Dr DJ,

Please be informed that your SriLanka is a subject or even primary subject of the regimes of the UN and international law. so, Mahindha chinthanawa cannot violates and breach fundamental obligation of Srilanka as a Member of the UN and international community.

Even your independant supreme Court failed to recognise the award granted on Singarasa v SriLanka.

I think the time has come, civilsed governance of Europe and India and request them to accept the legitimate demand of the Tamil speaking belt.. Otherwise decolonise the region.and allow Sinhala people to enjoy the real deomocracy.

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By: Venkai http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/437/comment-page-1#comment-11441 Venkai Wed, 14 May 2008 03:55:30 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/437#comment-11441 comment#15 LTTE is the by product of continuous STATE TERROR against the un-armed Tamils. No body can deny this. No amount of Govt. propaganda can gloss over this reality Security forces are killing un-armed TAMIL civilians by aerial bombing, shelling, torture, kidnapping. Tamils are denied freedom of movement, restriction on fishing, farming. They are arrested and imprisoned without cause for years without being charged. Food and medicine are sent in trickle just to hood wink the international opinion. Their houses are being gobbled up in the name of high security zones. While the right ful owners languish in refugee camps for years, security forces live in these houses. If the Govt. cannot protect the Tamils, and treat them as equal with the rest of the population, they have no right to "rule" them. A Govt. which kills section of its own citizen has no "authority "over them. Govt. has the means to kill by aerial bombardment. The victims of STATE TERROR, who has no sophisticated equipments has to use other means to defend themselves. . comment#15

LTTE is the by product of continuous STATE TERROR against the un-armed Tamils. No body can deny this. No amount of Govt. propaganda can gloss over this reality

Security forces are killing un-armed TAMIL civilians by aerial bombing, shelling, torture, kidnapping. Tamils are denied freedom of movement, restriction on fishing, farming. They are arrested and imprisoned without cause for years without being charged. Food and medicine are sent in trickle just to hood wink the international opinion. Their houses are being gobbled up in the name of high security zones. While the right ful owners languish in refugee camps for years, security forces live in these houses.

If the Govt. cannot protect the Tamils, and treat them as equal with the rest of the population, they have no right to “rule” them. A Govt. which kills section of its own citizen has no “authority “over them. Govt. has the means to kill by aerial bombardment. The victims of STATE TERROR, who has no sophisticated equipments has to use other means to defend themselves.
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By: Anonymous http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/437/comment-page-1#comment-11394 Anonymous Tue, 13 May 2008 18:49:25 +0000 http://federalidea.com/focus/archives/437#comment-11394 *** The elections were a farce. The Muslims make up about 40% of the population and with an alliance with the main oppossition, UNP, and no TNA, the Muslims should have won at least 17 seats. *** Murugan, You are nothing more than a Stupid Ignorant Communalist... and your statement above illustrates this Beautifully! Are you by chance related to Rauf Hakeem? You automatically ASSume that All Muslims will Vote for Muslim Politicians and All Tamils will Vote for Tamil Politicians. LOL! Your mindset illustrates the Fundamental problem in Sri Lanka today and why we have this continued turmoil. It will never occur to you that Tamils or Muslims will vote for whoever (REGARDLESS of RACE) will bring them the better deal???? But no,.... you automatically ASSume that the Muslims would have voted for the Muslim Politicians, and the Tamils for the Tamil Politicians and therefore the Election is a Farce because it did not Yield your RACIST COMMUNALISTIC Mindset's foregone conclusion.... I should also Note that it is ironic too how that is the case in Colombo...so many Tamils and Muslims voting for Sinhala Politicians! Why??? Surely according to you the Tamils Muslims and Sinhalese should all vote for Politicians of their own race....? If you were Right Mr. Murugan why is this not the case in Colombo, and why oh why do you ASSume it has to be the case in the EAST???? *** The elections were a farce.
The Muslims make up about 40% of the population and with an alliance with the main oppossition, UNP, and no TNA, the Muslims should have won at least 17 seats. ***

Murugan,

You are nothing more than a Stupid Ignorant Communalist… and your statement above illustrates this Beautifully! Are you by chance related to Rauf Hakeem?

You automatically ASSume that All Muslims will Vote for Muslim Politicians and All Tamils will Vote for Tamil Politicians.

LOL!

Your mindset illustrates the Fundamental problem in Sri Lanka today and why we have this continued turmoil. It will never occur to you that Tamils or Muslims will vote for whoever (REGARDLESS of RACE) will bring them the better deal????

But no,…. you automatically ASSume that the Muslims would have voted for the Muslim Politicians, and the Tamils for the Tamil Politicians and therefore the Election is a Farce because it did not Yield your RACIST COMMUNALISTIC Mindset’s foregone conclusion….

I should also Note that it is ironic too how that is the case in Colombo…so many Tamils and Muslims voting for Sinhala Politicians! Why??? Surely according to you the Tamils Muslims and Sinhalese should all vote for Politicians of their own race….? If you were Right Mr. Murugan why is this not the case in Colombo, and why oh why do you ASSume it has to be the case in the EAST????

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